Saturday 16 August 2014

I'm very excited (well it doesn't take much!) as have found some more ancestors: ones which I'd given up hope of ever finding.  

We didn't know very much about my grandmother, Bunty's, family.  All she said was that she lost contact with them when they emigrated to Australia in about 1920.  And that all her photos had been lost when they moved down to Cornwall in 1925......


She said that her mother had married again and subsequently had a son, Frank (after whom Bunty named her second son, my uncle Frank);  my grandmother also said that her mother was called Florence, the same as her - not a great deal to go on.  


But, thanks to a very helpful relative, I've now been able to trace her mother's birth certificate (a different name from on her marriage certificate, thus the confusion).


Using free bmd and also Ancestry at the library we've been able to find out about Bunty's grandmother.  We didn't realise that she had a daughter out of wedlock (Bunty's mother) and we also didn't realise that she subsequently married and had a daughter.  Unfortunately the daughter died in the 1960s with no issue so we can't find out any more information than these bare bones at present:


Annie Greenslade (Bunty’s grandmother)

Born: 4 December 1863 at 2 Clarendon Cottages, Hornsey
Parents: James Greenslade, Clerk at the Metropolitan Board of Works and Annie (nee Laman) 

Married: 20 June 1895 Hornsey: (Edmonton 3a/487)
Charles Henry Edward West, and  Annie Eliza Greenslade, 
Witnesses: Marian Emma Greenslade and Charles West.

Children
  1. Florence Gasper Greenslade born 1879, ond 2a/567, out of wedlock (Bunty’s mother) No mention on 1911 census.  (this is my grandmother's mother, who I was told was  called Florence Violet Gasper, so no wonder I couldn't trace it)
  2. Mabel Marian West, b 26.4.1897, Edmonton, London.


1871 Census:  6 Willow Walk, Hornsey: with parents

1881 Census:  7 Vernon Terrace, Long Lane, Barnet, Finchley: with parents.
AND
1881 Census: (probably) 78 Blenheim Crescent, Kensington
Florence Greenslade:, age 1 yr, illegitimate, no mention of mother.

1891 Census: 9b Marine Parade, Brighton (lodging house)
Harriott West, wife, m, 70, b Bermondsey (prob d later that year)
Annie E Greenslade, visitor, s, 27, b Hornsey
Jemima West, visitor, 10, b Hackney

1901 Census:  Tranmere, Muswell Road, Wood Geen
Chas H E West, h, m, 32, surveyor lane agent, employer, b shoreditch; Annie E, 37, b hornsey, wife; 
Mabel M, 3, daughter, b hornsey

1911 Census: 33 Creighton Avenue, Muswell Hill, 10 rooms, two servants.
Charles Henry Edward West, head, 42, m 15 yrs. Surveyor and property agent, employer, b Hackney rd NE; 
Annie Eliza West, wife, 47, 1 ch born, 1 alive (!);
Mabel Marian West, daughter, 13, school, b Crouch End.

May have died 1958 Hastings, aged 94?  
Charles may have died Battle, 1948 aged 79

Mabel’s death (Found on Ancestry June 2015)
Mabel Marian West, spinster late of ‘Combewood’ St Helens Park Road, Hastings, Sussex, died there on 29 May 1966 (estate about £4,300). 
The kin of the above named are requested to apply to the Treasury Solicitor (BV), 35 Old Queen Street, Westminster, London SWl.  T 7 D Ext 17.7.1967; Crt mg 6.9.1967; Cit lg 31.10.1967
Daughter of Charles Henry Edward West ... surveyor and annie eliza west was Greenslade.
Born 26.4.1897 at 77 Cecile Park Couch End, Hornsey
Reg father same add .... Edmonton J/189 3a/210
Died as she domiciled in Eng. Admson (save and except settlement land)
10.11.1967 to ... £4,357.

(Mabel died aged 69 according to free bmd)



Going back to Annie's parents I've found:

James Greenslade 

Born: 1831?; Parents: James Greenslade ?
Married:  1862  Annie Laman (prob died 1917 Barnet)
Children:
Annie b 1863
James b 1866
Marion E b 1870

Alice E b 1872
Died: probably 1912 Barnet
   
1871 Census:  6 Willow Walk, Hornsey
James Greenslade, 40, Clerk to the Board of Works, Annie, 39;
Annie E, 7; James L, 5; Marion E, 1;
Edward C Laman, 71, retired butcher (father in law)

1881 Census:  7 Vernon Terrace, Long Lane, Barnet, Finchley
James, 50, Clerk Metropolitan Board of Works; Annie, 49;
Annie, 17; James L, 15; Marion, 11; Alice, 9.

1891 Census: yet to be found

1901 Census: Stanhope House, Finchley.
James, 70, retired clerk, London CC; Annie, 69.
Marion E, 31; Alice, 29.

1911 Census: Stanhope House, King Street, E Finchley
James, 79, A clerk under London City Council; Annie, 79;
Marion, 41.
4 children born, 4 survived.



Wife: Annie Laman 
Born: 1831
Parents: Edward Claridge Laman and Margaret Calvert
Died: prob died 1917 Barnet